In their conversation Katie said something to effect of “all suffering comes from thought.”
This McEnroe took some issue with.
It was, unfortunately, a mis-understanding borne of not defining the term “suffering.”
McEnroe was talking about things like cancer and losing all one’s money to a crooked business partner and arguing that such things weren’t the result of thinking.
He’s right, but the things he were referring to are “pain;” actual phenomena and events.
Katie is talking about the mental dis-ease one creates when they use their mind and thoughts in ways that don’t work, that don’t serve their effectiveness and happiness.
This “suffering” is not pain. It’s something else. Katie would say that it’s believing things that just aren’t true. (And if people would dispute thoughts that don’t serve them, through The Work, then they would be much better off.)
I’m grateful for having heard their conversation and for realizing the pain vs. suffering distinction.
And I’m looking forward to challenging thoughts that don’t serve me when I’m feeling bad, or not feeling as good as I could.
What about you? Do you have thoughts and beliefs that don’t serve you? What if you disputed and released them? As Katie would say: who would you be without your story?